The SiteVisit

Transforming Construction Labour with John Reid

• James Faulkner • Season 7 • Episode 186

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Ever feel like “labor shortage” misses the point? We sit down with John Reid of Faber to map the real bottleneck in construction hiring: connection. From their scrappy days building a trade show booth out of sheet goods to a platform with over 100,000 signups, John shares how faster matching, transparent skills, and clean performance data can move people from downloads to dependable crews on site.

We compare two worlds—Vancouver’s slow, referral‑heavy buying culture and Dallas’s quick yes‑or‑no decisions—and unpack why speed and clarity matter in any two‑sided marketplace. Because the product is people, Faber tracks what actually builds trust: reliability, no‑show rates, and ratings. That feedback feeds matching models and helps keep the right hands on the right scopes. We also read the room on BC’s outlook using real signals—excavation starts, designer pipelines, and even appliance orders—while arguing for practical optimism as projects shift product types but keep cranes busy.

Robotics and AI get a grounded treatment. Layout robots can shine, but mud, oil, and minus‑40 days still test machines. The smarter lens is augmentation: AI that speeds drawing reviews, reduces admin, and trims low‑value tasks so teams can focus on judgment and safety. John also pulls back the curtain on 24/7 worker support and a new skills layer that connects users to e‑learning and third‑party tickets like WHMIS, fall protection, forklift, and telehandler. Credentials flow directly into profiles, and the app shows real pay uplifts—turning “get certified” from vague advice into visible ROI.

We close on the future of work: gig and fractional labor are already baked into subcontracting; technology simply formalizes and de‑risks it. Autonomy matters—four days instead of five, six months on then travel, or a bridge to a full‑time role when the fit is right. Expansion remains a relationship game across Canada and the US, but the north star doesn’t change: connect faster, train smarter, and let data reward the people who show up.

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Old Friends Reunite And Faber Origins

SPEAKER_00

All right, Jonathan. Can I call you Jonathan? Yeah, for sure. Jonathan, J.R., Johnny Boy. Oh, you got them all. Yeah. John Reid from Faber. We're like uh tech brothers, it feels like.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's good to be uh good to be back in the podcast here and back in the seat. And uh yeah, we go a long way back from the old days uh just above Yale Town Brewery there when we were across the way and you were wondering what the hell, what other construction technology companies moving into the building.

SPEAKER_00

Doesn't it feel weird though? Like when you think back to that. I remember you and Seb were like in the little uh room we had there.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we were like infants back then, you know, a bunch of 21-year-old kids trying to build a business at that point. You're old now. Yeah, I know. I feel old. You're married. I'm married, yeah. Um lots changed, obviously, personal life as you as you build out a business, all for the best, which is great. And uh yeah, no, it's been a long uh road, nine years, obviously, uh building favored technologies with uh Sebastian, Justin, and the rest of the team there. And we've obviously expanded uh from Vancouver into Dallas, Winnipeg, uh Edmonton, Calgary, and uh, you know, we're looking at a couple other markets right now. And uh yeah, the industry's been really great to us, and you know, we hope to obviously fix one of the biggest uh problems in the industry, which is fixing the labor torch.

Bootstrapping Days And Early Growth

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to the Site Visit Podcast Leadership and Perspective from Construction. Your host, James Walton, recording. Um your company's doing really well, and you and Seb have been able to really crush it. So that's pretty awesome, man. And for everyone who hasn't used Faber, they should. Yes. Um I mean, how much do you think penetration in Vancouver you've had from companies? Do you think most people have tried you or what percentage do you think?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I would say we work uh with a lot of the like the larger kind of uh general contractors and developers that are in the city for sure. We definitely haven't um you know penetrated to the subcontractor market yet. It just hasn't really been much of a niche for us. But yeah, we actually just cracked over a hundred thousand users uh in our database. So you know, we're obviously growing like crazy, and uh we have a lot of people that are interested in getting in the construction industry. So, you know, I struggle a little bit with the the word labor shortage because I think we're in a more of a connection shortage, right? Is like, how do you find a job in construction?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

If you didn't know how to find one, right? You're gonna go sit on a job board and you know put your resume in and go through the rig miranda of going through HR, or like, you know, with our system, you can sign up and get connected pretty quickly and yeah, get going in the industry.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's cool. I remember um the first trade show booth you had here, you actually built lumber. Remember that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we had uh Justin, one of my other co-founders here uh at Faber. Yeah, he basically came in and built the whole entire we had no money, right? Like we were like, what can we do? We went down to Home Depot and like got a bunch of slabs of uh uh sheet and started building basically. And uh I remember Justin spent like all night building that booth and hanging the TV that was there. And uh so crazy. You know, we we we didn't even have Wi-Fi at the time because it was I remember Wi-Fi here was expensive and there was none of this uh and the hotspot didn't work. Yeah, and the hotspot didn't really work at this time, right? This was eight years ago, and so like we're trying to hotspot this app on the phone, our VP of engineering, Daniel,'s trying to like do demos because we didn't have any salespeople or customer people at the time, right? So it's like, you know, that was bootstrap, bootstrap, and you know, we're kind of still in that phase, right, where we're we're just trying to grind this out and and get this into the hands of as many people as possible.

SPEAKER_00

So you've had a hundred thousand people be paid through Faber over this time?

SPEAKER_03

No, I'll correct that. They've downloaded the app looking for work.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I see, okay. Yeah.

Connection Shortage Not Labor Shortage

SPEAKER_03

Um I don't have the number off the top of my head, but it's definitely been in the But you don't have to disclose it. But it's I mean it's a significant amount of people. Totally, right? Yeah, especially, you know, for for the connectivity and like looking for jobs, I think that's what is uh so interesting to us is you know, it's the it's the lack of that connection that's actually happening.

SPEAKER_00

So what's really cool about actually chatting with you today is most of the other guests I've been talking to here, it's all very Vancouver BC based. Okay, even though you are, you're also in other markets. So what do you what are you finding is a significant difference between Vancouver as a market, um, business wise, and then let's say Dallas, for instance.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I would say I think um the biggest differentiator on the business side of things is I think decisions get made a lot faster down in the US than they do in the Canadian market. Yeah. Um there's you know less rigomaranda around like what do you think that is? I think it's just I don't know what it is. It could be a West Coast thing, right? Um, compared to like, you know, down south in the United States, where people are a little bit more uh um direct on how they feel, what they think of something, right? And it's easier to get a response time. It's like, okay, you don't want to use the platform, that's fine. Um, you know, they maybe give you some feedback on it, which is great. Here it's kind of like, oh, well, this actually sounds like a good idea. You should talk to this person. And it's like now you're in this just giant circle that you're basically. The hell circle. Yeah, the hell circle, and you know, you're in SaaS sales, you know how it works, right? It's like you're getting bounced around a body to body. It's like, okay, guys, just tell me if this is not gonna be the right fit, right? Yeah, um, and we notice that different um business wise um from doing business in the US. I'm not American, no.

SPEAKER_00

I'm born, I'm born in Surrey, BC, baby. Because you're sounding, you're sounding like maybe it's it's rubbing off on you the whole Dallas thing. Uh hopefully in a good way. Yeah, in a good way.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's direct, right? Yeah, right. You know you've got to ask for the business and you've got to ask them why not the business, and that's fine, move on.

Canada Vs US: How Decisions Get Made

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I always like to, when I get told no from a customer on why they don't want to use the platform, usually I ask them why, and you know, how can we get better, right? If you know what's the product feedback that you can give us? Uh we're obviously in that niche, right? You talk to a lot of SaaS founders, we're not a uh MRR sort of like, you know, plug-and-play subscription model like the, you know, like you guys and the other staff, the other software companies that are out there, it's right, right? Our product's also the people that we're sending out to these job sites, right?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, yeah, that is the end at the end of the day, it is it is who showed up and did what. Totally, right? And did they do that? Did you vet them properly?

SPEAKER_03

Exactly, right? And uh what we're doing is we're building a really great ability to find these people and a really great ability to be able to get them out to job sites. And then you know what I mean? We do all the rating reviews, we track all the data that these people are performing on the job sites. We're tracking things like hours, are they late, how many times they know show, right? And you can actually end up you know feeding into the model and feeding into our algorithm, the ability to keep the good people basically on job sites.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So do you um are you finding in BC anyway, an uptick in new applicants based on the slowing of the development industry here?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was interesting. 2025 definitely had its like ups and downs and peaks and valleys as it did, you know. I felt like uh the summer was a bit of more of a cool down. I don't think we were, you know, the platform was still being used quite a lot and we're seeing a lot of job orders come through and things like that, but um definitely we noticed to start to kind of cool off. And now moving into 2026, we are obviously seeing the industries kind of tightening up a little bit in BC. And I was talking to a fellow in the development world yesterday, and it's like, you know, the canaries in the coal mine, you got to go call the excavating companies and ask how many holes are being dug in the city, right? Because that's a good indicator on whether what's moving, right? And even beyond that, you know, talk to an architect, right, on design that's that uh, you know, what are they designing um uh for these developers? And uh I think a lot of the these developers are trying to change the plans on design once they've uh got the project going. They're like, you know what, we can actually go 20 stories higher, right? Or well just to get some profit. Exactly, right?

Marketplace Reality: People Are The Product

SPEAKER_00

So uh yeah. Interesting. Um so I had uh Dave Bowman on from um Midland Appliance. Nice. He's uh he's a really good guy to talk to because of the lead time of all of the appliances when it comes to um knowing exactly what uh kind of projects and how the projects are changing. So for instance, the appliance package that they might have ordered 24 months ago, now they realize where they're at. They're like, okay, well what can we do? Where can we shave some points off, or where can we move on? It makes sense, right? A Samsung microwave to a LG microwave. Exactly. So it's uh he's he's he's got some good intel on sort of where things are going. And um, yeah, it was it was it's pretty eye-opening on the orders that they interesting that they had a biggest year ever last year. So I don't know if that's new orders or orders that are finished or whatever it is, but uh you know I'd have to get some clarity on what that exactly is. But you know, my question would be is, you know, are they are they is the front end load of all of this work that we're gonna see come to fruition, is it even there or not? Like I don't even know if it's even there. What did the excavate do? Do you talk to you?

SPEAKER_03

I haven't I haven't had a chance to talk to any of the teams yet, and uh, you know, it's funny, I was uh leaving that coffee and I was just thinking, it's like, wow, everyone seems like in such a negative connotation around uh where the where the industry's going, right? On on the amount of work that's coming up. And like, you know, my wife always tells me she's like, you know, it can just be a bit more positive, right? Like maybe if we all, maybe if we all were just a little inch more positive and we could bring that energy, maybe that would change it. I know that's obviously in the development world, that's uh uh easier said than done, right? But uh yeah, like there are positive things happening, there's work happening. I was on site all day today, um, and I, you know, I went to several developer projects, and it's like, well, you're still building a massive high-rise that's here, right? So was it local here? Yeah, that was yeah, that well, it wasn't downtown, it was out in the kind of tri-cities, Burnaby area, but like, yeah, like the those corridors are still really busy, right? And maybe the product of what they're selling is changing from you know, instead of selling units they're going to rental, et cetera. I know I mean, you gotta finish them with. Yeah, and I'm not, you know, I'm not super knowledgeable in that space, but I I know, you know, I'll leave that to someone who's smarter than me to figure out, right, on what needs to change. But uh yeah, maybe it's just the types of projects that you know need to get built, need to change.

SPEAKER_00

So are you gonna be um deploying robots in five years from now?

Market Cooling, Signals, And Staying Positive

SPEAKER_03

Have you thought about that? Who knows? You know, I uh you know I can't disclose anything that you know is gonna maybe potentially happen in the future, but you're definitely seeing a lot more uh you know robotic style companies like Dusty Robotics, for example, with their layout tool that's there. But uh and it's really awesome. It's really Do you find it interesting? I do find that interesting. I think that it it works really well in contexts and controlled environments, but as we all know, and everyone listening who's this you know knows more about construction than I do, is when it's minus 40 out and you're trying to build something, can the robotics outperform a human? Yeah, right? Um if uh the robot goes over an oil slash on a job site and it starts some malfunction. You know what I mean? Like so, and I know those are some use cases that have happened to people that have used robotics companies, not dusty robotics, but robotics companies. Yeah, right, and it's like, okay, cool, it can do that, but can it actually you know do X, Y, and Z, right? So I I I think we'll see use cases for it. Um I'm excited for it, it's interesting. Um, I think in the dangerous areas, like if we can lower that, right? If we can put humans in less dangerous environments by using robotics, I think that's super powerful, right? Um, but you know, I I saw that uh everyone saw that post online on LinkedIn about it's like AI is not you know getting into construction or whatever. And who said that? Well, it was some post I saw, it was on a billboard, right? And it was like, you know, can ChatGPT do this, right? And it was on some scaffolding. Yeah, and it was all over LinkedIn, and it's like I I get that.

SPEAKER_00

But was that a call for construction is sort of that they would say is gonna be immune from it? Was it a call for recruitment almost?

SPEAKER_03

Well, it wasn't a call for recruitment. It could have been a call for recruitment, but it was basically like, you know, AI is not gonna affect the blue-collar jobs that are out there, right? And you know, I I think what I would say to that is that it's not gonna affect the jobs that are out there, but I definitely think it'll make people more efficient, right? Um, you know, maybe you're able to read drawings faster because you can plug it into some large language model and it'll spit you out what you're looking for, right? Yeah. But instead of spending two hours you're spending 15 minutes. Well, that's AI doing its job, right? Um but it's not replacing you, right? It's just making you more efficient, and then we can get more efficient in the construction industry.

SPEAKER_00

Have you deployed any um Do you think you're gonna be deploying AI enabling people who come onto job sites and are able to move from job site to job site in order to enable their robotics and stuff? Like, do you think that will become a job at some point? Like the gig worker of a construction site who is the technologist? Potentially, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you could definitely, or have someone who's like leading the robotics, right? Like you're the leader of the four robots that are on site. Who knows? That could potentially happen. We're definitely using AI internally to make things more efficient. I think a lot of most people most businesses are. Exactly, right? And so we're, you know, we've built out uh you know a bot that basically can do a lot of the stuff that we need done, but it's not replacing people, it's just making people more efficient. Right. Right? And uh, you know, I think businesses should be deploying some of that, right? If you can take out a lot of the mundane work that no one wants to do, right, and that would be amazing, right? Focus on the things that everyone loves to do, and you know, you're gonna scale and be more successful.

SPEAKER_00

Is there a um an element of the community around um uh like your your user community, your the people who you deploy to job to job sites? Do they have uh what do you just what do you what's your term for that? Just Faber workers. Faber workers, okay. So you're Faber workers, is there a um uh an element of you know helping with uh mental health things and all that? Is there is there is there something that because I I've I've um I chatted with um Trevor that was on a couple of podcasts before and some other people who it's a it's a big issue where um sometimes people feel that they can't get out of their loop of maybe their body hurts a bit and they're like I gotta I have to I'm sure it up I I'm suck it up, but my future feels like it's diminished because I know I can't do this for a long period of time. So do you is there I would imagine just that it would be a very uh useful thing if if there was that that um help there for that. You guys have forums and all that kind of stuff?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well one well there's a call answer this in a couple ways. So one thing is we have 24 hour support, right? We have a team that if you're a worker on your on our app, either if you're working or you're not working and want to learn and you have a profile on our app, you can basically go in and message our chat support team, and we have a team of worker operations people, and you know, if you like literally if you were having a bad day, you could talk to that person and that person's gonna maybe give you some advice and tell you what to do.

SPEAKER_00

That's a huge thing that you have though.

SPEAKER_03

It is, yeah, right? Because you know, at the end of the day, a lot of laborers don't have an output besides their foreman on job site or superintendent, but everyone's busy, right? So that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

So so does your your clients don't pay any more for that? No, it's completely free for them to use.

Robotics And AI: Hype, Limits, And Safety

SPEAKER_03

That's a huge that's a huge value app, man. Yeah, yeah, it's all run through intercom, and then we have obviously our team of worker operations people that uh basically manage kind of the workforce that's.

SPEAKER_00

And then this kind of escalated you kind of.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, right. Like, you know, if it's an excellent, like you know, if someone said something, you know, we we obviously could get ahead of that, which is great. And then the second thing that we actually have built into our app that uh is about to come live actually uh at the end of the quarter here is we've actually integrated a skills and certification section where workers can actually get connected to online e-learning and actually be able to learn skills in the jobs and in the trades. Um we've also plugged that in with a couple third-party training providers. So uh in-person training, they can go onto our app, get connected to a training provider, and book through them, so it's a lot faster and quicker. Um and then just as an education tool to try to skill up the industry, right? Uh you know, I think beyond all this labor that we have and the connection issue is we have a training issue, and we're gonna combat that completely and try to do it through e-learning. That's wicked.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Nice. So you you are you gonna so you're gonna link that into your profile. Um the all the different training and stuff that they've done. So it's more of an elaborate profile. Exactly, right? So like these are vetted programs that you guys have have determined are obviously Red Cups. That's obvious.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, we're partnering with third-party training providers, right? So, like, you know, ex-training provider who provides fall safe Wimis, uh, telehandler tickets, forklift tickets, that sort of thing. Workers can then get connected to those third parties, book a course, go take that course, that ticket automatically gets uploaded onto their profile, and then they can access jobs that they wouldn't have been able to access if they didn't have that ticket. But the big thing is they can actually see jobs that they need that ticket for and be able to be like, oh wow, look if I went and got my forklift ticket, I can make$7 an hour more.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_03

That's empowering because you're showing real numbers and real data behind it, opposed to, you know, sometimes they people just see on a job board, oh, if I had a forklift ticket, I could work this job. Right? Well, what's the upside, right? So we're showing them real data, real numbers, and the opportunities that they have.

SPEAKER_00

Can you um can you steel man the approach? And I would probably agree with you on this, but I just want to hear from you. Is if you had do you think that it's going to be uh more of a, you could call them fractional workers, if you will? Like your platform is delivering people on job sets so they don't have to employ them full time. Yeah. But do you think that that is the future?

SPEAKER_03

I do think it's the future.

SPEAKER_00

I think the gig economy. So just steel man on why you think that is.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, well I think the gig economy is the biggest future, right? I think the next generation of people aren't going to want to, you know, work for one person. They're going to want to be able to choose when they work because I think people want to get their time back, right? If I'm a worker, I could work four days on Faber instead of five days full time and maybe potentially make the same amount of money. But now I've obviously gained a day back of my time to do the things I love, right? Maybe I'm in a band, that's something I love doing, right? But I can't do that all the time, right? Or I'm a you know artist uh in the spare time. So this gives you the opportunity to kind of have that access to full-time jobs, right? Or maybe you want to work for six months and go to Tahiti for six months, wherever, right? So I think the gig economy is going to play a big, big role. We're already seeing it. It's growing immensely. We see it in the tech world already, right? So I think construction is like the perfect antidote for the gig economy and fractional working.

SPEAKER_00

Nice. Yeah, no, I totally agree with you there. And it's also the the when you say giving the time back, it's not just the time, it's also like this mental capacity that you don't feel like you're, I don't know, what do they call it? Like the man owns you? Totally, yeah, you're on your own boss. Yeah, the autonomy to be able to kind of live your life. Totally.

Using AI Internally To Remove Drudge Work

SPEAKER_03

Um you see it already though, right? Like let's just say, for example, uh, you know, uh construction company's gonna do a bunch of concrete work. That concrete contract is subbed out by tenfold, right? To ten different subcontractors. So there's micro working. It's already being done anyway. Yeah, it's already being done. It's just not being tracked and and not being taken in you know into account with the technology platform, right? But it already is there. You see micro crews of three or four guys that are placing concrete, right? And so that's already been subbed out. So we're just trying to be the conduit, obviously, um, in order to see more of it.

SPEAKER_00

So you you I would imagine though, based on the skills training that you're seeing the sort of caliber of the type of labor that you're deploying out. I mean, obviously for you, the best thing is for a business model is is the higher, highest rate that people are earning, is better for you guys.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, volume for us is obviously the probably the bigger thing, just because like I mentioned, we have a ton of workers, obviously, right? So you need a ton of volume and you need to be able to create liquidity in that marketplace and have more people getting out to jobs. So um obviously the really skilled jobs are great, right? But like again, back to my training point, it's like we don't have tons of red seal carpenters that are architectural formwork carpenters that have hang from scaffolding, right? Like, right? So um, but how do you create that? You have to create awareness, you have to get people in the industry that maybe wouldn't have thought to go into the construction industry, and so um, you know, 70% of the platform today is just people trying to get into the industry, right? And maybe become that person.

SPEAKER_00

So is there do you go what's the the benefit side of things?

SPEAKER_03

On the worker side? Yeah. Yeah, we uh obviously all the workers are like self-employed, right? Gig economy workers. So you know, our goal necessarily isn't them for them to live on the platform entirely, right? Our goal is for them to connect with someone, obviously, like, you know, X company and eventually join that company, right? And move up the ranks and ideally they find that you know perfect fit of the company that they want to work for or the career they want to work for.

SPEAKER_00

Like is the is there an insurer out there, you you guys, if on a certain amount of volume that people could get medical benefits?

24/7 Worker Support And Mental Health

SPEAKER_03

For sure, yeah. We've looked at it before in the past, it just hasn't been necessarily one that we've like double tapped on. It hasn't, we we obviously pull our workers, we ye ask our workers all the time, and it's the US is probably a big thing, right? Yeah, totally. And you know, every worker's covered obviously through you know, WorkSafe BC here in uh BC, WorkSafe Alberta, uh WorkSafe uh Manitoba, we have workers' comp policy down in Dallas, right? So like when these workers are on site, they're all obviously insured, et cetera.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Um but as for benefits and that sort of thing, it's really up to the workers to figure out on their end. Um but you know, if a worker works on our platform and finds a great employer that they want to bring on, we're happy to facilitate that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_03

So what else you got coming up this year? Yeah, the skills certification stuff's obviously a big piece to kind of upskilling the industry. We've noticed that that's obviously going to be something that we're gonna put a lot of time and effort in, right? Is trying to take someone who has no skills and ideally educate them and get them to a point where they can gain skills. and connect within the industry.

SPEAKER_00

Do you guys do things at high schools and that for or just not it's just too small of a scale.

SPEAKER_03

Like I like the programs. I think it's awesome. I think awareness is great, but I think digital is like the way to go. Like if you're not online, that's where everyone is, right? Right. So and and yeah. Yeah, all that time for like eight kids. Totally, right? Well it's it's it you know you know or or 30 kids and you know four of them are engaged, right? Like, you know, if you're really engaged about something, you're probably gonna look online or ask ChatGPT like you know what's the construction industry, right? So yeah, we're really focusing on like the e-learning side of things when it comes to that. And then new markets is a big one for us, right? Like we hope to be Canada wide by the end of the year, right? So that's from Toronto to Vancouver. So what is the difficulty of other markets? It's just getting there, right? It's just the time of getting into that market, right? Our product is obviously like super advanced compared to what's currently out there when it comes to finding labor, but as we know the construction industry is built on relationships and relationships take a lot of time, right?

SPEAKER_00

And so I think we're just So is it finding the workers or or getting the customers?

Skills, Tickets, And E‑Learning Integrations

SPEAKER_03

It's getting the customers. That's like the that's like obviously being new like booking a it's like Uber right like you know it's like when our parents any marketplace any marketplace or anything that's new. It's like booking an Airbnb. People are kind of like ugh I don't know if I want to stay in someone's house right or like oh like ordering a pizza et cetera right so um definitely a construction yeah exactly. So yeah I think it's just a time thing and an education thing and it'll happen right um you know we're obviously going to continue to expand in the US as well right so um what makes it difficult in those markets? Again I think it's the same thing or is it other regulatory things? No I think I I don't think it's a regulatory thing. I think the construction industry and I love it for it, it's built up the relationships right and you look at all these other construction tech companies none of them have really been an overnight success right like that I can think of like um you know they take a lot of time and effort in order to get there and I think purely due to the fact that this industry is so heavily relationship based. Yeah right and uh you know I'm sure when the first software system got out onto a construction site a lot of people were like I'm not using this. I like my pull plans on pen and paper, right? But that's changing and we just got to have the time to to get there. Yeah nice.

SPEAKER_00

Okay well this is pretty cool man I I appreciate you uh coming down. What are you what are your um what are your concerns for 2026? Is there anything you're like hmm I wanna know how that's gonna play out.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah I guess like you know it'll be interesting to see what happens kind of uh geopolitically and what happens obviously I'm not gonna get into that detail too much but like what happens to the construction industry within Canada right um I think a lot of people are sitting on the sidelines kind of thinking what's gonna happen next right so kind of in this like kind of weary phase of like you know maybe 2026 is just kind of this one of these washy kind of weird years. Supposed to be the year of the horse where everyone's supposed to be moving as fast as a horse but it's not looking that way but yeah you never know right so uh did you get your Chinese New Year little cards? I haven't got the cards put one in the office I should yeah I haven't I haven't got that but uh I actually uh yeah I haven't got the horse horse uh card yet but maybe I should add it in there. I'll get the sage smudging going in the office right once in a while. But uh yeah no I think you know I'm I am I'm excited like I you know we've been doing this business for nine years and I can still say like I get excited to wake up every day and kick ass and uh yeah I think we have the best product that's out there when it comes to finding construction workers and I'm happy to have the debate with anyone uh around that that's awesome. Okay man well thank you very much uh not much of the show to let to enjoy because it's 55 minutes left that's all right I'll do a quick uh we'll do a quick wander and maybe a beer who knows yeah nice okay awesome man well thanks for coming down man appreciate it so Faber Technologies so it's Faber yeah Faber Technologies um with the website yeah you can google us it's FaborConnect.com you can reach out to me on LinkedIn as well um or you can reach out to me at john at FaborConnect.com and happy to feel any questions or everyone should call you just even if they're curious about things on you know it doesn't necessarily have to be a sale may it's even it's a it's an information session to see how you can help. Totally yeah and like I'm always uh like a litmus test on what I'm seeing in the labor market. Like I have people that have called me before and just wanted to jabber on about labor and what they think about the market and happy to do that right so yeah okay cool well I encourage everyone to do that you're a good dude so thanks man.

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